Webinar on Mary Boleyn: Presented by Claire Ridgway

Webinar on Mary Boleyn: Presented by Claire Ridgway

On Friday I had the great pleasure of listening into a fantastic webinar presented by Claire Ridgway from The Anne Boleyn Files/The Anne Boleyn Fellowship. Claire’s presentation looked at Mary Boleyn, older sister of Anne Boleyn second wife of Henry VIII, and all the mysteries that surround Mary.

I have never participated in a webinar and honestly was not sure what to expect. I am also not very skilled with computers and was terribly worried that I would not be able to log into the webinar, or that somehow I would click on something wrong and loose the webinar half way through! Luckily none of this happened. In fact Claire made it extremely easy to log into the webinar and all I had to do was click on a link, type in the password and there was the webinar, it was very simple!

Claire’s webinar was extremely informative and I thought it was a wonderful overall presentation. She talked about a number of different myths and topics surrounding Mary Boleyn and also had a slide presentation that the listeners could watch while she spoke. I enjoyed the slide shows as they had points of interest, quotes and images. 

Claire spoke about several topics including:
  • The various ways Mary Boleyn has been portrayed in fictional novels
  • The scant facts that we actually do know about Mary Boleyn (which are very few!)
  • The questions that surround Mary Boleyn and her life
  •  Mary being the mistress of Francois I and Henry VIII
  •  The possibilities that William Carey or Henry VIII fathered Mary’s children
  •  What did Mary Boleyn look like?
After the presentation (of which I have to say that I took seven pages worth of notes!) Claire then opened up the webinar for the listeners to ask questions. It was very easy to ask a question as all you had to do was type your question into the small box on the screen! Being as obsessed with Mary Boleyn as I am I asked three or four questions and much to my delight and surprise Claire answered them all!

Overall I thoroughly enjoyed Claire Ridgway’s webinar on Mary Boleyn. I thought it was extremely well presented and professional and packed with lots of information. As always I had my thoughts and viewed challenged and I really delighted in this. I love to think about and pose questions about Mary Boleyn’s life and Claire did just that! It was a wonderful presentation and when it was over I was left feeling very excited and as though I had just participated in something quite extraordinary. 

This is Claire’s second webinar on the Boleyn family (her first being about George Boleyn and his wife Jane Parker) and I believe that she will be doing other webinar’s in the future. I strongly urge anyone interested in the Boleyn family to join the Anne Boleyn Fellowship so that you can listen and participate in these fantastic webinars.

You can find the link to The Anne Boleyn Fellowship here: The Anne Boleyn Fellowship

Also here is the link to another fantastic website Claire runs which is all about the life of Anne Boleyn:  The Anne Boleyn Files

 Could this be a minature of Mary Boleyn painted by Lucus Hornebolte?

The Boleyns: The Rise & Fall of a Tudor Family by David Loades

The Boleyns: The Rise & Fall of a Tudor Family by David Loades

The fall of Anne Boleyn and her brother George is the classic drama of the Tudor era/ The Boleyns had long been an influential English family. Sir Edward Boleyn had been Lord Mayor of London. His grandson, Sir Thomas, had inherited wealth and position, and through the sexual adventures of his daughters, Mary and Anne, ascended to the peak of influence at court.
The three Boleyn children formed a faction of their own, making many enemies: and when those enemies secured Henry VIII’s ear, they brought down the entire family in blood and disgrace. George, Lord Rochford, left no children. Mary left a son by her husband, William Carey – Henry Carey, Lord Hunsdon. Anne left a daughter, Elizabeth I – so like her in many ways and a sexual politician without rival.

I have been eagerly anticipating this book since I first heard that Loades was writing a book about the Boleyn family. Anne Boleyn is an idol of mine and a great source of strength and inspiration. I have always found her life to be quite incredible and I love learning and reading about her. As well as Anne Boleyn I also find her sister Mary a huge source of inspiration, especially in the way that she followed her heart and seemed to marry for love. I was extremely interested in what Loades had to say about Anne and Mary Boleyn as well as his thoughts and knowledge about Thomas Boleyn, their father and their brother George Boleyn.

Loades started the book with a brief history of the Boleyn family tree. He wrote about the origins of the Boleyn family and spoke about how the Boleyn’s were gentry who over the generations rose in status and wealth. It would seem that the Boleyn men were smart and used their wits to make profitable business deals and purchases and through this were able to raise the status of their name. They were also very clever in their marriages and were able to marry into some very wealthy and well to do aristocrat families. 

Sir Geoffrey Boleyn was the founder of the Boleyn family fortune and at one point was Lord Mayor of London. He was a smart man with strong business sense and did very well for himself, even being able to purchase some property. He purchased Blickling sometime before 1460. He married Anne who was the daughter and co-heir of Thomas, Lord Hoo and Hastings. Sir Geoffrey’s heir was his second son William and it was William who married Margaret, daughter and co-heir of Thomas Butler, Earl of Ormond. William Boleyn had several properties including Hever Castle. William and Margaret’s oldest son was Thomas Boleyn. Thomas Boleyn would also make a very good marriage for himself when he married Elizabeth Howard, sister of the Duke of Norfolk. Thomas Boleyn was also a very intelligent man and competent courtier. It would appear that he was well liked by Henry VIII and was sent on several diplomatic missions for his King. Thomas Boleyn had three very famous children, Mary, Anne and George. It would be his daughter Anne Boleyn that would one day grow up and become the second wife of King Henry VIII. 
Loades spoke about Thomas Boleyn and personally I found it fascinating to read about a man who is often portrayed as cold hearted and unloving. Thomas Boleyn was a very clever man who did very well for himself at Henry VIII’s court and seems to have achieved quite a lot through his own merits. His religious beliefs however seem to have differed a little from his daughter Anne’s and son George’s as he appears to have been a little more traditional in his beliefs. Loades proposes that since Anne and George had more interest than their father in the evangelical beliefs, this may have been one of the reasons that separated them from their father in the later years of their lives.  
After King Louis XII of France died and Mary Tudor, his widow returned to England I did notice that Loades wrote that both Anne and Mary Boleyn were transferred into the service of the French Queen Claude. Loades later writes that in 1518 Thomas Boleyn recalled Mary back to England and found her a place in the household of Queen Catherine of Aragon. I found this rather curious as we know from records that Anne Boleyn went on to serve Queen Claude but there is no evidence that Mary did also. Nor is there any evidence that upon her return to England she went to serve Queen Catherine. In fact it seems that Mary disappears for a period of time after her service to Mary Tudor. There is no reference for these statements so I am not exactly sure where Loades found this information.
I was also a little confused by the claim that Catherine Carey, daughter of Mary Boleyn and William Carey, was Mary’s second child born in 1527. Josephine Wilkinson who wrote “Mary Boleyn: The True Story of Henry VIII’s Favourite Mistress” stated in her book that Catherine Carey was born in 1524. She also states that “The year of her birth is easy to establish from a portrait of her which was painted in 1562. This notes that the sitter was thirty-eight years of age at the time, giving her a birth date of 1524.” (p. 79). Wilkinson also adds that Mary’s second child, Henry was born on 4th March 1526. Alison Weir in her book “Mary Boleyn: The Mistress of Kings” also states that Catherine Carey was born in 1524, probably March or April. I cannot find the reference Loades uses to provide evidence to support his statement that Catherine Carey was born in 1527 so unfortunately I am not sure where this idea came from.
Loades wrote that it is unknown when Anne Boleyn married Henry VIII, but the evidence points to sometime between the 15th and 23rd of February. This is a new idea for me regarding Henry VIII’s and Anne Boleyn’s wedding as in my reading I have always read that they were married on January 25th 1533 in a small and secret wedding “in the upper chamber over the Holbein Gate at Whitehall, before dawn” (Starkey p. 6 2004).  Loades also stated that Anne Boleyn was executed at noon on the 19th May 1536. Although a very small issue of timing, records and statements tell us that she was executed at about 8 or 9am, not midday. In Alison Weir’s book “The Lady in the Tower: The Fall of Anne Boleyn” she writes that Chapuys wrote to his Emperor stating that “The execution of the Concubine [Anne] took place at nine o’clock this morning in the Tower” (Weir 2009, p. 259).
After talking about the fall of Anne and George and the death of their father, Loades went on to speak about Anne’s daughter Elizabeth I and Mary’s children, Henry and Catherine. It was quite intriguing to read about this next generation of Boleyn family members and their lives. It would seem that when Elizabeth I became Queen she sought out the comfort and closeness of her cousins Henry and Catherine and bestowed upon them a great deal of trust.
I also really enjoyed Loades’ thoughts on Elizabeth’s eventual decision not to marry. He spoke about the tricky situation that Elizabeth I would have been in if she did marry. As a woman she would have been expected to be submissive and serve her husband, but as a Queen and sovereign of England she would have been expected to rule and care for her country and people. This would have been a very tricky game to play indeed, on one hand being a submissive figure and on the other a powerful ruler. It seems in the end Elizabeth chose to be the strong and sturdy ruler, so really no wonder she never married!
I absolutely loved reading what Loades had to say about Anne Boleyn’s religious beliefs. For me this was probably the most fascinating aspect about the book as there have been many accusations levelled at Anne Boleyn, not only during her life but for centuries after regarding exactly where her religious beliefs laid. Some say that she was an evangelical, others that she was Lutheran (her brother George apparently being more Lutheran than Luther himself!) Some even say that she was a witch working for Satan, but that’s slightly off tangent! It was utterly fascinating to read what Loades had to say about Anne Boleyn’s religious beliefs and where he felt she rested along the conformist/evangelical line. Loades suggests that although Anne Boleyn did have some evangelical thoughts and beliefs she was at the core still orthodox Catholic. She did introduce her future husband Henry VIII to new ideas and thoughts about religion and where the Pope fitted into religion in England but she was also a very devout woman who attended mass daily, kept books of prayers with her and practiced the traditions of the Catholic faith. Before her execution Anne swore on the sacrament twice that she had not committed adultery or incest against her husband. If she was lying then such an act would have, in Anne’s eyes and that of the Catholic Church, have damned Anne’s soul for eternity. Personally I think the fact that she was a very religious woman and did swear upon the sacrament not once but twice helps to show that she was innocent of the charges brought against her. But back to the topic of Anne’s religious tendencies - swearing upon the sacrament is also a Catholic tradition and belief and it would seem that Anne held these beliefs right up until her death. Yes she did introduce Henry VIII to some new religious ideas and yes she did support and assist many people who had evangelical leanings and probably shared some of their thoughts and beliefs, but that certainly does not make Anne an evangelical fanatic or a Lutheran. She was as Loades states, still very much orthodox Catholic in her beliefs. This was such an interesting and thought provoking read and I thoroughly enjoyed what Loades had to say about the topic of religion and Anne Boleyn. As I said it was for me my favourite part of this book. 

Overall I thoroughly enjoyed reading Loades’ book about the Boleyn family. I waited quite a while to receive my copy of this book but the wait ended up being well worthwhile. Loades has a brilliant mastery of the English language and writes in such a style that it captures the reader and draws them in, always encouraging them to want to learn more. I enjoyed his book “The Six Wives of Henry VIII” and I can also say I strongly enjoyed reading his latest book about the Boleyn’s. I do admire and respect David Loades as a historian and a writer and look forward to reading more of his works. I would strongly recommend this book to anyone who has an interest in Tudor history and especially anyone who is interested in any member of the famous Boleyn family. 


Tuesday's Tudor Tableau - Tudor Rose Pins


I love to collect souvenirs and other odds and ends and when I went to Hever Castle and saw these little Tudor Rose pins I just had to get one! Actually I ended up getting two because I think they’re so cute and I couldn’t just get one and let it be lonely!! I know that I will never have any use for them, I don’t wear pins on my clothing and I don’t attach pins to my handbags but that still did not stop me from getting them anyway! 

Unfortunately the picture I took is not very clear but the pins are very pretty. They’re made of pewter or something similar and are in the intricate design of a Tudor rose. They hold a special meaning for me as I got them from Hever Castle - one of the most incredible places on earth and one of the places where I felt closest to Anne Boleyn. I keep them on my board in the study so that whenever I look over at my whiteboard I can see them. I don’t care if they’re tacky or an odd souvenir I like them. What else can I say but that I am an obsessed Tudor fan and love to collect anything Tudor related, and what’s better than a Tudor Rose?!

My Thoughts on author and historian Alison Weir

My Thoughts on author and historian Alison Weir

With everything that is currently being written about Alison Weir’s new book “Mary Boleyn: The Mistress of Kings”, both positive and negative I just wanted to take a quick moment to talk about my thoughts on Alison Weir. 

I have to say that I really do admire and respect Ms Weir. Despite not agreeing with everything Ms Weir wrote in her latest book about Mary Boleyn I still greatly adore her as a historian and writer. I think she is one of the most talented authors I have ever had the pleasure of reading. She is clearly a very smart and talented woman and her numerous books show her passion for Anne Boleyn and Tudor history. I really do love Ms Weir’s writing style, it is fluent and interesting and she writes with a great deal of detail and emotion which is used to capture the reader’s attention and draw them in. When reading her books I always find myself wanting to know more. I just have to read one more page, and then another and another and another until I find I’ve finished the book far quicker than I expected to! 

Ms Weir has taught me so much about Tudor history and specifically about Anne Boleyn. Through her books and writings about Anne I have been opened up to an incredible world of intrigue, love, passion, sadness and strength. Ms Weir has educated me a great deal about the type of woman Anne Boleyn was and all the incredible things she did with her life. I just love reading about Anne Boleyn through Alison Weir’s writing. Her writing has also helped my personal passion and admiration for Anne Boleyn grow and I find Anne such an inspirational woman. 

My favourite book by Ms Weir is “The Lady in the Tower: The Fall of Anne Boleyn”. This book which looks at the arrest, fall and execution of Anne Boleyn is the most passionate, heartfelt and emotional book that I have ever read. I bought my copy at Hampton Court Palace in October 2009 and read the entire book on the way home from London to Australia. I still remember as I read the final pages, sitting in my seat on the plane crying, tears streaming down my cheeks. The sheer passion and emotion within this book was overwhelming and I found myself unable to stop the tears, totally amazed at the woman that Anne Boleyn was. For me this just shows what a great writer Ms Weir is as she can reduce one of her readers to tears just by the power of her words!

I really like that Ms Weir challenges my thoughts and views, not just about Mary or Anne Boleyn but about Tudor history in general. Often it is human nature to read something and take it as fact, but I find that Ms Weir challenges these long accepted facts and really makes me think. She challenges my thoughts in such a way that I want to learn more, I want to find out more, I want to keep reading and keep researching. If I don’t understand something that has been written, or I don’t completely agree this really challenges me to go and research. I feel encouraged through Ms Weir’s writing to find out why I don’t completely agree with something that has been written or to fill in the gaps of my knowledge. I think as a historian and writer this is a wonderful quality that she has. 

I also find myself regularly referencing one of Ms Weir’s books whenever I am researching or writing something about Tudor history. Her books are so well written that it is easy to find pieces of information and I regularly draw upon these when writing short articles or trying to find answers to questions. I own several of her books and often find myself picking them up and having a flick through to find out some piece of information. Her books contain such a wealth of facts and information that I find they so often come in handy! 

I really do adore Alison Weir as a writer and historian and even though I do not agree with everything that she wrote in her latest book about Mary Boleyn, I would and will always recommend Ms Weir as an author that anyone interested in Tudor history must read. She has a brilliant way with words and her passion for Anne and Tudor history is clear in all of her books.  
Books I would recommend reading written by Alison Weir:
  • The Lady in the Tower: The Fall of Anne Boleyn (2009)
  •  Henry VIII King & Court (2001)
  •   The Children of Henry VIII (1996)
  •  The Six Wives of Henry VIII (1991)
Alison Weir also runs a webpage which can be found here: The Official Site of Historian and Author Alison Weir

Alison Weir

Quick Question: Where was Mary Boleyn buried?

Quick Question: Where was Mary Boleyn buried?

The short answer to this is that I have not been able to find any record of where Mary Boleyn was buried. In her book ‘The Six Wives of Henry VIII’ Alison Weir states that Mary’s place of burial is unknown. Wilkinson in her book ‘Mary Boleyn The True Story of Henry VIII’s Favourite Mistress’ also does not state where Mary Boleyn was buried.

Mary Boleyn was the oldest daughter of Thomas Boleyn and Elizabeth Howard and older sister of Anne Boleyn, the famous second wife of Henry VIII. While her exact date of birth is unknown it is generally believed by historians that she was born approximately 1499/1500 at Blickling Hall, Norfolk. In 1514 Mary travelled to France to become a lady in waiting to Princess Mary Tudor whom was to marry King Louis XII. Sometime during her stay in France Mary became mistress to Francis I, the new King of France after the death of his father in law. It is unknown how long her relationship with the King lasted. 

Upon returning to England Mary Boleyn married Sir William Carey on February 4th 1520, in the Chapel Royal at Greenwich. Sometime after this, most probably during the year 1522 Mary became the mistress to Henry VIII. Now she was the mistress of not one but two Kings! Her relationship with Henry VIII lasted approximately three years and is thought to have ended sometime before 1526. Most probably the relationship fizzled out on its own accord sometime during the end of 1525 when Mary was pregnant with her second child. Mary bore two children, a daughter named Catherine in 1524 and a son named Henry in 1526. Since Mary was sleeping with the King during the period in which her children were conceived, many people believe that there is a strong possibility that both Catherine and Henry or one or the other could be the illegitimate children of Henry VIII.

After the death of her husband on 22ndh June 1528 of the sweating sickness, Mary Boleyn married a man named William Stafford. William was a man far beneath Mary’s station in life with only a small income. The fallout of this marriage was utterly disastrous for Mary as she was banished from court, most probably for two reasons, first marrying without her family’s permission (her sister now being the Queen of England) and for marrying far below her status.

On May 2nd 1536 Anne Boleyn was arrested and taken to the Tower of London, charged with treason, incest and adultery. Her brother George was also arrested and charged with having slept with his sister and for treason against the King. Both were found guilty of their crimes and George was beheaded upon Tower Hill on May 17th and Anne was beheaded on May 19th 1536 on Tower Green. There is no evidence that Mary visited her sister or brother during their imprisonment. There are also no records of her thoughts of feelings on the death of her brother and sister.

From this time onwards Mary lived in relative obscurity with her husband. Catherine Carey, Mary’s daughter became a lady in waiting to Anne of Cleves (Henry VIII’s fourth wife) and married Sir Francis Knollys. William Stafford became a squire of the body and Mary inherited some lands and property from her father after his death including Rochford Hall in Essex. Mary and William were also granted the manors of Southboram and Hendon in Hendon Park and well as some lands in Hever and Bransted, Kent. William Stafford also sold some land to the King. Life may have been a little more financially stable for the couple having several manors and some land and money. 

Mary died on either the 19th July 1543 (according to Alison Weir) or 30th July 1543 (according to Josephine Wilkinson) aged approximately forty three. She outlived her more famous sister and brother by seven years. In her latest book “Mary Boleyn: The Mistress of Kings”, Alison Weir suggests that it may be a possibility that Mary was buried at St. Andrew’s Church at Rochford. This church had been built sometime in the late fifteenth or early sixteenth century by Mary’s grandfather and it could be a possibility that she was laid to rest in a church related to her family. However the records of the church do not go back as far as the sixteenth century and there have also been extensive renovations done to the church over the centuries. Unfortunately Mary Boleyn’s place of burial may never be known. 

I actually feel quite sad that such an incredible woman now rests in an unknown and possibly unmarked grave. Mary Boleyn, although not as famous as her younger sister Anne, deserves recognition for her strength and determination in following her heart – especially in a time when women were meant to do as they were instructed by their husbands or fathers. I can only hope that one day a previously unknown piece of evidence is uncovered and perhaps then the mystery of where Mary Boleyn was buried will finally be answered. 

A miniature by Lucus Horenbout – could this be Mary Boleyn?


Hart, K 2009, The Mistresses of Henry VIII, The History Press, Gloucestershire.
Rigeway,  2011, ‘The Anne Boleyn Files’, viewed 17th September 2011, Available from Internet www.theanneboleynfiles.com.
Weir, A 1991, The Six Wives of Henry VIII, Grove Press, New York.
Weir, A, 2011, Mary Boleyn: The Mistress of Kings, Ballantine Books, New York.
Wilkinson, J 2010, Mary Boleyn The True Story of Henry VIII’s Favourite Mistress, Amberly Publishing, Gloucestershire.

Mary Boleyn: The Mistress of Kings

Mary Boleyn: The Mistress of Kings

Sister to Queen Anne Boleyn, she was seduced by two kings and was an intimate player in one of history’s most gripping dramas. Yet much of what we know about Mary Boleyn has been fostered through garbled gossip, romantic fiction, and the misconceptions repeated by historians. Now, in her latest book, New York Times bestselling author and noted British historian Alison Weir gives us the first ever full-scale, in-depth biography of Henry VIII’s famous mistress, in which Weir explodes much of the mythology that surrounds Mary Boleyn and uncovers the truth about one of the most misunderstood figures in the Tudor age.
With the same brand of extensive forensic research she brought to her acclaimed book The Lady in the Tower, Weir facilities here a new portrayal of her subject, revealing how Mary was treated by her ambitious family and the likely nature of the relationship between the Boleyn sisters. She also posits new evidence regarding the reputation of Mary’s mother, Elizabeth Howard, who was rumoured to have been an early mistress of Henry VIII.
Weir unravels the truth about Mary’s much-vaunted notoriety at the French court and her relations with King Francois I. She offers plausible theories as to what happened to Mary during the undocumented years of her life, and shows that, far from marrying an insignificant and complacent nonentity, she made a brilliant match with a young man who was the King’s cousin and a rising star at court.
Weir also explores Mary’s own position and role at the English court, and how she became Henry VIII’s mistress. She tracks the probably course of the affair and investigates Mary’s real reputation. With new and compelling evidence, Weir presents the most conclusive answer to date on the paternity of Mary’s children, long speculated to have been Henry VIII’s progeny.
Alison Weir has drawn fascinating information from the original sources of the period to piece together a life steeped in mystery and misfortunate, debunking centuries old myths and disproving accepted assertions, to give us the truth about Mary Boleyn, the so-called “great and infamous whore”.

I had been greatly looking forward to reading this book from the first moment that I heard Alison Weir was writing a book on Mary Boleyn. Mary has always fascinated me, I think she is an extraordinary woman and it seems as though there is so little known about her life. I was eager to start reading Weir’s book in the hopes that I would learn a little more about the mystery that is Mary Boleyn.

Weir states that there is very little evidence at all to suggest that Mary was a “great and infamous whore”. In fact there is only once piece of evidence, that being from Rodolfo Pio, Bishop of Faenza, who on March 10th 1536 wrote that “the French king knew her here in France for a very great whore, and infamous above all” (p. 72). It is suggested that Mary only stayed a short time in the French court and when she went there even Mary Tudor, the new French Queen, stated that Mary Boleyn was very inexperienced in the way of the world and how to serve her. Weir suggests that considering the French court was one of the most renowned courts for loose morals, it is doubtful that a short lived affair by Francois I and Mary would have caused such a scandal. She also suggests that it is unlikely that Mary would have gone from a young woman who knew little to a woman who jumped into bed with many members of the French court and who would become rewound for her sexual abilities. She also suggests that if Mary was such an infamous whore why are there no other reports or comments about her? This last suggestion is what really stands out for me as strong proof that Mary was not the well-known whore many think of her as nowadays. In a court full of loose morals a woman would have to do something truly outrageous to be known as an infamous whore, and yet at the time and for over a decade later nothing, not a single word, was mentioned about Mary Boleyn’s behaviour or actions at the French court. 

I have to say that I completely agree with Weir’s thoughts about Mary Boleyn’s sexual activities. The suggestion that Mary Boleyn was a “great and infamous whore” in a court ruled by a new King who enjoyed sex and sexual activities as one of his favourite pastimes says very little. Yes she most probably did enjoy some personal time with Francois I, but to suggest that makes her an infamous whore is making a huge judgement leap based on very scant evidence. 

Weir moves on to suggest that Elizabeth Boleyn, Mary Boleyn’s mother may have led an immoral life and was estranged from her husband. I do not agree with this idea at all. Weir used a poem by John Skelton to support this argument and honestly I do not think a poem can be, or should be used as credible evidence. Poems allow a great deal of creative licence and there is no evidence to suggest that Skelton’s poem was completely factual. She also stated that many people had claimed Elizabeth had also slept with Henry VIII as well as her daughter’s Anne and Mary. Again court gossip and claims are not enough to back up such a statement as this. I simply do not think that there is enough evidence to prove that Elizabeth Boleyn lead an immoral life before she married her husband Thomas or that she passed on immoral ways of behaving to her daughters. 

In regards to Thomas Boleyn Weir provides a brilliant account of his life, outlining the achievements Thomas Boleyn made and the awards and recognitions he received and his high status at court. Unfortunately she then moves on to suggest that he held little love for his children and was quite cold towards them. We do know from evidence that after Mary Boleyn remarried without her father’s or sister’s consent Thomas Boleyn all but disowned her. But before this, when Mary and her siblings were children was Thomas Boleyn cold towards them then? I suppose it depends on what ones definition of cold is. Personally I doubt that he was cold towards his children; certainly he cared for them as he provided them with excellent educations and did all he could to give them opportunities at court. Clearly he wanted the best for his children as they were growing up. 

I thoroughly enjoyed reading about Weir’s thoughts on where Mary Boleyn was during the years 1515 – 1520. Weir states that she was not at court as a lady in waiting to Catherine of Aragon, nor was she retained in Mary Tudor, Duchess of Suffolk’s attendance once she returned to England. So where was Mary? Weir suggests that Mary’s father Thomas sent her to Brie-sous-Forges (nowadays known as Fontenay-les-Briss), a house in France owned by Francois I’s cupbearer. Here, while still in France, Mary could finish off her education and polish all the necessities needed to be a noble lady.  There is a tradition that Anne Boleyn lived in Brie-sous-Forges for a time, but since we know that she was retained in Queen Claude’s house it is quite plausible that it was in fact Mary and not her sister Anne that went to live at Brie-sous-Forges. It is frustrating that there is so much we do not know about this incredible woman. There are huge gaps in our knowledge and it is difficult to put together a definitive timeline of the events and places in her life because there is simply not enough evidence. I am still praying for the day that a lost letter, diary or other source of information will be discovered and it will unearth a treasure trove of information about Mary Boleyn! 

I also thoroughly enjoyed learning more about William Carey, first husband to Mary Boleyn. Weir provided a very detailed account of Carey’s life at court and the numerous grants and privileges given to him. As an Esquire of the body and a cousin to Henry VIII he appears to have been one of the King’s trusted men and it was probably through this trust, rather than Mary being Henry’s mistress, that Carey received the grants and favours. Weir provided such a wealth of information about William Carey that when I read of his death (even though I already knew he died in 1528) I felt incredibly sad. I can only imagine the amazing career he might have had if he had lived (and continued to say in the King’s favour!)

I have to say that I do have an issue with Weir’s assumption that Thomas Boleyn, oldest son of Sir Thomas Boleyn died in 1520. Claire Ridgway from The Anne Boleyn Files challenges this theory and suggests that Thomas Boleyn and Henry Boleyn (sons of Thomas Boleyn and brothers to Mary Boleyn) died as infants or very young children. I completely agree with this idea as there is just no record of Thomas Boleyn junior being at court. Thomas Boleyn senior was a great presence at court and was well liked and valued by the King and often recorded in documents, so for there to be no record of his son Thomas would strongly suggest that the boy died as an infant or young child. Not to mention the tiny brass marker identifying his grave is identical to his brother’s Henry, who died as a child.  

I also do not agree with Weir’s suggestion that Henry VIII forced himself, or even possibly violated Mary. There is simply no evidence to support this. Yes Henry VIII was the King of England and wielded extreme power and influence over Mary, but this is not to say that he forced himself upon her or took her without her permission. Henry VIII was a player of courtly love and believed in chivalry, I cannot see forceful taking of a woman in this game, nor in any of Henry VIII’s actions towards his wives or other mistresses. He may have found himself extremely attracted to Mary and put her in such a position that she could do little but consent to the King of England, but this is different to the King violating and forcing himself on Mary. 

I did notice a statement about Anne Boleyn while reading that really confused me. Weir claimed that Anne Boleyn’s second pregnancy resulted in the child dying “at or near full term, and was most certainly a son” (p. 156). Weir provides no references for this statement and I have never in all my reading about Anne Boleyn read that she miscarried a son at or close to full term. Certainly she miscarried a male foetus on January 29th 1536, but before? There are records of Anne being pregnant in early 1534 and being some time along in her pregnancy and then there is nothing, no record of Anne getting ready to have the child or of the child being born so it has been suggested that Anne miscarried. There are no records or mentions of the sex of the child or that Anne carried the child to full term or close to full term. Certainly if this were the case everyone who is anyone would have known about it. For the Queen of England to have given birth to a stillborn son, or miscarried a male child close to full term surely would have been heard all around court, but nothing is recorded or noted. With no references to Weir’s statement I certainly do have my doubts.

Still on the subject of Anne Boleyn I was quite upset at Weir’s suggestion that Anne had been corrupted during her time at the French court. From what I can gather Weir bases her claims on the fact that Henry VIII reported to Chapyus (the Spanish ambassador in the English court) that Anne had been corrupted in France before he knew her. The most important thing to keep in mind about this statement by Henry VIII is that it was made after Anne Boleyn had been arrested, charged with adultery, incest and treason and then executed. During this time Henry VIII was a man scorned, determined to get rid of his overbearing wife who could not provide him with a son, so that he could marry Jane Seymour. I do not think in such circumstances it is at all possible to give any credit to anything Henry VIII had said about Anne. Other than this statement I just do not think that there is enough evidence to prove that Anne had any inappropriate or sexual encounters with men while at the French court. That is not to say that she did not learn a thing or two about how to handle men, certainly she had the amazing capability to capture a man’s attention with just one look from those dark eyes, but this is nowhere near the idea that she was corrupted. 

Weir also suggested the idea that George Boleyn, Mary’s younger brother, fathered an illegitimate son. Honestly I am not even going to talk about this idea as there is no evidence to support this idea. 

I did however thoroughly enjoy reading about William Stafford, Mary’s second husband whom she married in 1534 without the permission of her father or family. I knew only rough details about this man and it was interesting to learn more about this life, who he was and what he did for a career. I did like the idea that Weir put forward that after their marriage and the death of her sister Anne, Mary went to live in Calais with her husband while he was serving there. This is a very plausible idea as there are several mentions of William Stafford being in Calais in the years following Anne Boleyn’s death. Weir’s suggestions help at least a little to flesh out where Mary Boleyn was during the early years of her marriage to William Stafford. 

I was upset to read Weir’s statement that Mary may not have mourned the death of her husband William Carey deeply. Again how does Weir know this? There is such little evidence about Mary Boleyn and nothing regarding her emotional feelings or thoughts, how could she make a statement such as this? Although the marriage had been arranged who is not to say that Mary and William did get along and found love with one another? Maybe they did become close, maybe she mourned him greatly. It would be another six or so years before she married again, which in itself could suggest that Mary did have some feelings for her late husband. Maybe she did mourn him, unfortunately we do not know and thus cannot make any claims on how she felt.  

Following along these same lines I felt while reading that Weir included a great deal of “maybes” and “possibly’s” into the book. There is so little written about Mary Boleyn that there are huge gaps in her life that we may never know about. I understand that Weir, in her book, was trying to fill in these gaps and give some plausible answers to where Mary Boleyn was, or her thoughts and feelings or her actions, but at the end of the day we just do not know.  Without sufficient records, statements or facts we do not know what Mary would have thought or felt and yes we can try and take a guess based on the scant knowledge we have about Mary, but certainly there has to be limits to this. 

I also do have to say that the picture on the front of this book aggravated me to no end. The image of the young woman on the cover is not Mary Boleyn but is in fact Queen Claude of France, wife of King Francois I. Why this image was used on the front cover I have no idea. Even if Weir does not believe that the Hever Castle portrait of Mary Boleyn is in fact Mary Boleyn, it is at least an image that many every day Tudor lovers (like myself) associate with Mary Boleyn. To use a completely different woman, a French Queen, on the front cover, completely confused me and I know it confused a lot of other people also!

In regards to the Hever Castle portrait of Mary Boleyn I did find Weir’s thoughts on this portrait thoroughly interesting. Weir challenges the idea that this portrait is of Mary Boleyn and suggests that it might be of Frances Brandon, daughter of Charles Brandon, Duke of Suffolk and Mary Tudor, Duchess of Suffolk and younger sister of Henry VIII. I find this theory very plausible as if one looks at the Hever Castle portrait and compares it to images of Charles Brandon and Mary Tudor you can see several similarities, especially in the eyes and nose. But if the Hever Castle portrait is not of Mary Boleyn then do we even know what she looked like? Unfortunately there are no written accounts of what Mary Boleyn looked like, but I propose that the Horenbout miniature painted in 1525 of a woman often believed to be Anne Boleyn is actually Mary Boleyn. Once again it is just so frustrating that so little about Mary’s life has been recorded!

Lastly I found it very difficult to swallow that Mary Boleyn was jealous of her younger sister Anne because she was eclipsed by her. Weir suggests that Mary was jealous because Anne appeared to achieve more than her, because she had given her virginity away to Francois I while Anne remained chaste. She also suggested that Mary was jealous because it appeared their father favoured Anne more than Mary and seemed to care little for Mary and her children’s wellbeing after the death of her husband William Carey. But maybe, just maybe, Mary was not jealous of her sister and accepted her lot in life. On a personal note I have an older sister, she has a great deal of money and lives for her career and the things she can purchase but does that make me jealous? No not at all. In fact I would not trade my life for hers! I may not have a great deal of money but I have a beautiful family who I love and who loves me in return. Maybe that is also how Mary felt, maybe she knew she could never be as talented or as skilled as her sister, maybe she accepted her lot in life and was content simply to be loved. At the end of the day we will never know but I just cannot accept Weir’s suggestion that Mary was jealous of her sister, there is just not enough evidence to support this. 

As Eric Ives said to Claire Ridgway from The Anne Boleyn Files: “What we know about Mary Boleyn can be written on a postcard with room to spare.” Unfortunately this is true and after reading Alison Weir’s book on Mary Boleyn I felt no closer to knowing who this extraordinary woman was. My interest in this intriguing woman has drawn me to read nearly every scant detail that has been recorded about her and thus I have built up a framework, a knowledge, of what is known about Mary Boleyn. I was hoping that in her book Weir would be able to shed a little more light on the areas of Mary’s life that I did not know about. She did suggest an interesting theory that Mary lived in Brie-sous-Forges (nowadays known as Fontenay-les-Briss) between 1515 and 1520, which is something that could be very plausible. I also found her ideas that the Hever Castle portrait of Mary Boleyn is not in fact Mary Boleyn but is rather Francis Brandon, daughter of Charles Brandon, Duke of Suffolk and Mary Tudor, Duchess of Suffolk and younger sister of Henry VIII. Yet aside from these points there was not a great deal else that I did not already know about Mary Boleyn. Sadly I think that unless another piece of evidence such as a diary, letter or report comes to life we may never truly know who this remarkable woman was.

Overall I did enjoy Alison Weir’s book on Mary Boleyn. I have always enjoyed Weir’s writing style and this book was no exception. I found it fluent and easy to read and I felt that Weir provided some very interesting theories and ideas about Mary Boleyn. Although I did not agree with some of what she wrote it was good to have my thoughts and views challenged. I would recommend this to anyone who has an interest in Mary Boleyn or wants to learn a little about the sister of Anne Boleyn, but I would advise them to read carefully and not take everything they read as staunch fact but instead use this book as a basis to do more research on Mary Boleyn. 


The Boleyns: The Rise & Fall of a Tudor Family By David Loades

The Boleyns: The Rise & Fall of a Tudor Family
By David Loades


The fall of Anne Boleyn and her brother George is the classic drama of the Tudor era/ The Boleyns had long been an influential English family. Sir Edward Boleyn had been Lord Mayor of London. His grandson, Sir Thomas, had inherited wealth and position, and through the sexual adventures of his daughters, Mary and Anne, ascended to the peak of influence at court.
The three Boleyn children formed a faction of their own, making many enemies: and when those enemies secured Henry VIII’s ear, they brought down the entire family in blood and disgrace. George, Lord Rochfort, left no children. Mary left a son by her husband, William Carey – Henry Carey, Lord Hunsdon. Anne left a daughter, Elizabeth I – so like her in many ways and a sexual politician without rival.

It’s here! It’s finally here! I have been waiting for my copy of David Loades’ book on the Boleyn family since I first heard about it and it became available for preorder. I have been waiting and waiting and today on my doorstep there was a lovely brown package. Ripping it open without hesitation I knew it was my book and since that moment I have not been able to take my hot little hands off this book! I am so excited!

I have read another of David Loades’ books “The Six Wives of Henry VIII” and I thoroughly enjoyed every word. Loades has the ability, I found, to include a great deal of information, facts and details without overloading the reader. He also has an easy writing style which is simple, flows and has the ability to draw the reader in and make them want to read more.

I am fascinated with the Boleyn family, specifically Anne Boleyn and her older sister Mary Boleyn. Both women I find incredibly interesting, intriguing and inspiring (the three I’s!) I just adore both women and I have recently been reading a little more on Thomas Boleyn and found him quite a curious and captivating character. I do not know a great deal about George Boleyn and I hope that Loades will give me more of an insight into his life as well as the other members of the Boleyn family.

I am also curious as to what Loades has to say about the children born to Elizabeth Howard and Thomas Boleyn. Obviously we know that three children survived into adulthood, Mary, Anne and George, but we also know that two other sons, Thomas and Henry were born. There are different theories about when Thomas died, one that he died as in infant as his brother Henry did, but another theory suggests he lived into at least he teenage years. I am very curious as to what Loades has to say about all of this.

I also cannot wait to read what he has to say about Mary Boleyn! I have just finished reading Alison Weir’s book “Mary Boleyn: The Mistress of Kings” and found it quite challenging to my thinking and perceptions of Mary Boleyn. I also do not agree with several points that Weir made and challenge her assumptions on several matters. I simply do not think she provided enough evidence and resources to make some of the statements that she made. I am terribly curious as to what conclusions Loades makes about Mary Boleyn and the woman that she was.

In short I cannot wait to start reading this book! I think after dinner and the chores are done, my daughter is in bed and I have a moment to myself I shall draw a bath and sink in and get reading!

Hever Castle

Hever Castle

On November 9th 2009 I had the opportunity to visit Hever Castle. For me this was a once in a life time experience. I live in Australia and the journey alone to England took me almost 23 hours and all of my savings! I honestly do not know if I will ever be able to get back to England (I hope I can one day), so for me this experience was quite possibly a once in a life time opportunity.

A distance view of Hever Castle. (Photo by me).

Hever Castle was the childhood home of Anne Boleyn, one of the most famous women in English history. Anne Boleyn would eventually become the second wife and Queen to Henry VIII. Her only living child was Elizabeth who would become Queen Elizabeth I and would rule England for forty four years. To marry Anne Boleyn and annual the marriage to his first wife Queen Catherine of Aragon, Henry VIII would change the face of religion within England and set about the reformation which had huge lasting impacts upon the country and people of England. After securing the annulment of his first marriage, Henry VIII was able to marry Anne Boleyn but unfortunately it was not to be a lasting union. After failing to give Henry VIII a son, and for many other reasons including her outspokenness and strong will and lack of supporters at court, Anne Boleyn would fall. She was arrested on the 2nd of Mary 1536 and taken to the Tower of London. Charged with treason, adultery and incest she was found guilty and execution on May 19th 1536.

On a personal note Anne Boleyn is my greatest inspiration. She is an idol to me and I adore and resect her for a multitude of reasons. I love that she had a fiery temper and spoke out in a time when women were not thought to be as intelligent as men nor should step outside the bounds of motherhood. She was strong willed, determined and Anne took the chances given to her and ran with them as hard and as fast as she could. I respect all of that, as well as her courage and her strength in her final days. I also admire the fact that she was flawed and was not a perfect woman. She had her faults and flaws just like the rest of us. She is a huge source of inspiration for me and I greatly admire Anne. 

It is because of this passion and admiration that I hold for Anne that it was one of the most incredible things for me to ever do to visit her childhood home at Hever Castle. But first here is a very brief background on how Hever Castle became the childhood home of Anne Boleyn. 

Hever Castle itself is over 700 hundred years old. Anne’s ancestor Sir Geoffrey Boleyn was a Mayor in London; he wed a lady named Anne who was the daughter and heiress of Lord Hastings. It was though this marriage that Geoffrey acquired Blickling Hall and Hever Castle. Anne and Geoffrey’s son William ended up being knighted and made a baron by Richard III. He married Lady Margaret, daughter of Thomas Butler, the Earl of Ormond. Mary’s father Thomas was the oldest son born to Sir William Boleyn and his wife Margaret. Thomas Boleyn went on to create quite a good marriage for himself by marrying Elizabeth Howard, daughter of Thomas Howard, Duke of Norfolk. When Thomas Boleyn’s father died, Thomas acquired Hever Castle and in 1505 he moved his young family to the beautiful castle in Kent. In 1506 Thomas Boleyn added a 100 foot Long Gallery to the castle in which the family could participate in sports or light forms of recreation during the winter months.
The castle has changed greatly over the years and little is the same as it would have been in Anne Boleyn’s day. After Anne Boleyn’s execution and her parent’s deaths the castle was given to Anne of Cleves, Henry VIII’s fourth wife. After her death the castle went to various families including the Waldegraves, the Humphreys and the Meade Waldos. Unfortunately over the centuries the castle went into ruin, luckily in 1903 William Waldorf Astor acquired the castle and it underwent major renovations. The inside of the castle was changed dramatically and the oak wall panelling that can be seen today was erected during this renovation period. Along with the castle the gardens and surrounding area also had major work done as in Anne Boleyn’s day there were no gardens, only vast forest surrounding the castle. It is from these vast and expensive renovations that we have the Hever Castle we see and know today.

The Astor family owned and lived in Hever Castle until about 1983 when it was sold to Broadland Properties Limited of Yorkshire who still currently look after the Castle and gardens.

 Hever Castle. (Photo by me).

Despite the renovations and changes undertaken at Hever Castle, changing it from how Anne Boleyn would have known her home, it is still a spellbinding and magnificent place. Unfortunately you were not allowed to take pictures inside the castle, which is a shame. Although I did buy the guidebook and it does have a lot of beautiful pictures in there from inside the castle.

The inside of the castle is absolutely magnificent and as I moved from room to room I was struck by the sheer beauty of the place. Even though not every aspect of the rooms are the same as they would have been in Anne day it is still a breathtaking place. I was captivated by the beautiful portraits which adorned the walls and especially taken by the portraits of Anne Boleyn, Henry VIII and Mary Tudor. Nowadays ‘Hever Castle, once the home of that great figure in Tudor history, Anne Boleyn, now has one of the best collections of Tudor portraits after The National Portrait Gallery’ (Starkey 2011). I found myself staring at these portraits for long periods of time and literally had to tear myself away to explore other areas of the castle. 

The room that touched me the most was the one in which is believed to have been Anne Boleyn’s bedroom. It was so small, quiet and beautiful. It was a simple, tiny little room but it may have been Anne’s room and it was that knowledge that made it even more magical. It was an incredible, life changing experience to be able to stand in the same area as Anne Boleyn would have done; only separated by time. To touch the fireplace that she probably touched, looking out the same window that she must have looked out of a hundred times. There was such awe about the room; I can still feel the shivers that ran down my spine from while I was there. I stayed in that room for quite a long period of time, not noticing the people that came and went. I stood for quite some time looking out of the little window, not seeing the buildings or gardens, but imagining the forest that Anne would have seen. The experience is quite difficult to put into words and try and describe but it is one that changed my life.

The other room that sent shivers down my spine was the room that held Anne’s two Books of Hours. These are two prayer books that belonged to Anne Boleyn. They were behind glass (of course) but to be mere inches away from books that Anne Boleyn held was amazing. Once again I had the opportunity to be close to something that was part of Anne Boleyn, and once again it was only time that separated me.  In one of the books of prayer she had written “Les temps viendra, Je Anne Boleyn” which means: “The time will come, I Anne Boleyn”. It is a quote that has stayed with me ever since.

In the other Book of Hours, the one that is believed to have been taken with Anne when she went to the tower, she wrote the phrase “Remember me when you do pray that hope doeth lead from day to day,. Anne Boleyn.” I could not help but well up when I read this. Anne Boleyn is my idol, my inspiration and I do remember her daily and I do draw upon her life as a source of inspiration for my own. 

After seeing Anne’s bedroom, then her two Books of Hours I went into Anne of Cleve’s bed chambers. It was a simple room with a beautiful view overlooking the moat and entrance to the castle. After her marriage to Henry VIII was annulled, Henry gave Anna Hever Castle to live in. I have heard that Anne loved Hever Castle and spent quite some time there. I can see why she liked the place – it is exquisite. 

I also saw Henry VIII’s locks. It is interesting to learn that wherever Henry went he brought his personal locksmith with him. He had all his own locks added to each door of every room so that he could not be attacked or assassinated in his sleep. They were very impressive locks and quite beautiful. 

The castle itself is beautiful and after inspecting every tiny detail I went for a walk in the gardens. The gardens and surrounding grounds weren’t established until 1904 - 1908, so obviously they would have looked very different in Anne’s day. Still, the gardens were just majestic and so peaceful and quite. On the day that I visited it was cold and foggy but there was also an amazing sense of peace and calm about the place. There was also almost no one around and I had the opportunity to walk through the gardens alone and spend a wonderful period of time thinking and reflecting. 

A map of Hever Castle and surrounding area. (Photo by me).

For me Hever Castle is one of the most magnificent places on earth. To stand in the places Anne Boleyn would have stood, only separated by time, is such an incredible feeling. To experience a little of Tudor life, to learn more about Anne Boleyn, to simply be part of the beauty and majesty of the Castle, it is all awe inspiring and breath taking. I adore Hever Castle and feel so fortunate that I had the opportunity to visit.

I took many pictures while I was at Hever Castle but below are just a few of my most favourite…

A closer view of the gatehouse. (Photo by me).

Gardens. (Photo by me).

Gardens. (Photo by me).

Gardens. (Photo by me).

Gardens. (Photo by me).

A view of the lake. (Photo by me).

My favourite picture that I took of Hever Castle. (Photo by me).

If you are interested in learning more about what Hever Castle would have looked like during Anne Boleyn’s lifetime, Dr Sarah Morris has written a brilliant article detailing the layout and descriptions of Hever Castle. You can find her article here:

Tudor Hever: A Journey Back in Time to the Real Childhood Home of Anne Boleyn

You can also view the official website for Hever Castle here:

Hever Castle & Gardens


All photos are taken by me please do not copy or redistribute without permission.

 

Hever Castle 2001, ‘Hever Castle & Gardens’, viewed 8th October 2011, <http://www.hevercastle.co.uk/>.

Hever Castle and Jarrold Publishing 2008, ‘Hever Castle & Gardens’, Jarrold Publishing, Norwich. 

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Weir, A 1991, The Six Wives of Henry VIII, Grove Press, New York. 

Weir, A 2009, The Lady in The Tower The Fall of Anne Boleyn, Jonathan Cape, London.
Wilkinson, J 2009, The Early Loves of Anne Boleyn, Amberly Publishing, Gloucestershire.